However, with a 6 iron, as the vertical swing plane is steeper, moving the low point position forwards by an inch will tend to make the angle of attack 1. Nov 22, 2009 how flat a swing is is a relative question. Many amateurs swing the club down on a steep, outtoin path with the face open. For most golfers, it is going to be best to swing the driver along a relatively flat plane. Additionally, the angle of your spine should be the same as it was at set up and your left wrist should be nice and flat.
First, i try to stay centered as i swing back, not letting my head move to the right. The vertical shoulder turn on the downswing i have found is one of the leading causes of early extension goat humping golf is actionreaction. Instead, work on keeping the left wrist flat or slightly bowed as you start the downswing and all the way to impact. You need to view the swing from dtl, put a line on the original shaft plane. Where can i learn about swing bio mechanics like you. This is where the golfer pushes the clubhead outside with arms and wrists at the beginning of the forward swing. An upright swing will cause you to bring the club toward the ball with a steeper angle of attack. If your backswing features limited wrist hinge and a. But how, then, can a golf swing be both upright and.
Should you opt for a sweeping swing with your irons, you will need to spend plenty of time practicing your technique so you can execute the swing properly even when you are feeling nervous. This results in me releasing my wrists too early and hitting ugly hooks. When you have a flat swing, the club tends to settle on the heel at address. Nov 16, 2018 an upright swing will cause you to bring the club toward the ball with a steeper angle of attack. Jun 25, 20 this will help you hit slightly up on the ball with the driver and create maximum distance. So golfers go in search of faults and fixes every chance they get. Feb 22, 2017 so the result is a swing that is too steep, but an attack angle that is too shallow. Attack angle myths and misconceptions adam young golf. I have found that a singular swing correction almost never works. Your browser does not currently recognize any of the video formats available. The angle of the shoulder turn is everything rebellion golf. Three main reasons you get steep in your downswing. May 07, 2009 if your swing was upright before, and it has flattened out since your lesson, does that mean you still have a slightly upright swing plane. The path to straighter shots instruction golf digest.
Aug 04, 2015 if youve done this right, you should be in a similar position to how billy horschel looks below. How to correct a flat golf swing video by pete styles pete styles pga teaching progolf swings will generally fall into two categories in terms of the plane of their swing. Make your left wrist flat on the downswing to shallow out. Billy horschels tips to shallow out a steep swing golf. While this may be characteristic of all great ball strikers, his flat action is.
Now as the club tracks downward, you need to connect the dots on the movement of the hand path. If this describes your swing, you can straighten out your shots by shallowing out your downswing, getting the shaft angle flatter on the downswing so the clubhead. In answer to your question, yes, your club position at setup assuming youre square to the target with the proper grip and stance is the plane you. Another benefit to using a flat swing plane with your driver is the increased swing length you can achieve by taking this path. If your lie angle is too upright, then you will tend to hook the ball. The idea of correcting your golf swing is one that all of us entertain, and we probably all should work to fix our swing at one time or another at least those of us who want to play better. If your backswing features limited wrist hinge and a steep swing plane, you most likely will shallow. So if youre steep during the downswing, and im saying to you, you need to do the opposite of that earlier. What id like to offer to golfwrx readers is a series of articles that deals with twopart adjustments called faults and fixes. It is entirely possible that you will only be affected by one or two of these drawbacks when you try a sweeping swing for yourself. Swing radius is defined by where the center of curvature of the clubhead is through impact. Its the idea that if you have a steep shaft as you start the downswing, you will have a steep impact andor a left swing path. Staying over the ball allows me to turn my left shoulder downward on a steeper angle. Well, a swing thought i use with my driver and 3 wood is to try and sweepbrush the grass during my takeaway with the club head.
This makes the swing path steep and across the ball from out to in. So, a shallower shaft actually produced a steeper angle of attack and a left swing path this is not to say a steep shaft at the start of the swing automatically produces this impact or vice versa, but it is just. Players with a steep downswing bring the club down with the shaft almost perpendicular to the ground. Subscribe to meandmygolf to see more professional golf instructions. This steep downward compression on the golf ball will cause the ball to soar. First, you have to consider the fact that the ball is up on a tee. So, a shallower shaft actually produced a steeper angle of attack and a left swing path. This is not to say a steep shaft at the start of the swing automatically produces this impact or vice versa, but it is just to say we should be careful when assuming that a steep shaft is producing a steep impact, or vice versa. If you like this drill and want more tips, check out our full video series with kyle. The attack angle, a measurement of how steep or shallow the clubhead is moving relative to the ground through impact, plays a vital role in how much distance youre able to generate off the tee. If i were to adjust the hula hoop so it reflected your clubs motion on the downswing, it would look like a ferris. This should help prevent you from taking the club back too steep. Whats the difference between a flat and upright backswing. The why and how of shallowing your golf swing the left.
Sep 15, 2016 however, with a 6 iron, as the vertical swing plane is steeper, moving the low point position forwards by an inch will tend to make the angle of attack 1. Ideally, you want to get the club to split the right forearm. The most common manipulation for the amateur golfer with a steep forward swing is the over the top and casting combination, which i discuss on another page. The importance of flattening your downswing golfwrx. Whats the difference between a flat and upright backswing and why. Understanding swing plane and swing path golf channel. The problem with a shoulder plane that is too flat in the backswing is that it takes your arms and the golf club out of position, your hands and the club too far behind you at the top see figure 2 this then creates a shift in your swing planes in the downswing, which reduces the efficiency of your golf swing and means that you will have to make compensations in the downswing in order to. Oct 03, 2015 steep swing fix pga professional robin symes shows a fun drill to help fix a steep swing. Meandmygolf explain the flat swing plane and whether a flat swing plane can lead to poor contact subscribe to meandmygolf to. The swing you make with a wedge in your hands is naturally more upright or should be than the swing you make with a driver. Golfers should focus on keeping the left wrist flat at the very beginning. A flat shoulder plane is when the shoulders turn on a more horizontal plane than the axis of the original spine angle. I think that creates tension and can get the club behind youtoo flat very easily. Thats fine for a world class player who manages a severe body action, but for most golfers, having the shoulders turn 90 to the spine on the backswing and downswing is the easiest way.
A flat swing tends to travel along the ground for longer than it should, and when this happens, the face is likely to close and sweep across the ball with a hooking motion. The tighter the swing circle, the narrower the swing arc is. This steep downward compression on the golf ball will cause the. Now, this is a steeper shoulder plan than this, obviously, right. As you set up at address, when you go back, that club should be pointing down at the ground. If your swing was upright before, and it has flattened out since your lesson, does that mean you still have a slightly upright swing plane. Billy horschels tips to shallow out a steep swing golf channel. If you have a solid setup, your shoulders are turning 90 to your spine and the back swing ends when the shoulder turn stops, that takes care of any issue that staying connected will have an affect on. The noodle will train you to swing back and through on the same plane, and will make your swing more efficient. Try to balance things out by staying centered, with your backswing resisting movement away from the target. We did a drill where it felt like a baseball swing around my spine. So long as your clubface is perpendicular to your swing plane at impact, it doesnt matter whether the plane is flat or steep.
Once in a while i will counter this with a large slice, but i cannot seem to find my old tempo and rythem. If your swing plane is either too steep or too flat then there is a very good chance you are not hitting the golf ball consistently well. A flatter swing generally will result in less downward compression and lower shots. Most golfers instead, have an over the top, casting move which leads a steeper plane on the downswing. But before i convince you that your driver doesnt have enough loft, lets go through the 4 signs that you need more loft on your driver, which ill explain in more detail below. Certain golf swings are better suited to produce certain shot shapes than others, so you need to make sure that you are using a swing that is in line with the shots you are trying to hit. At impact, their club tends to move across the target line from the outside. Mar 19, 2006 my swing was so steep and i couldnt even feel it, hence this is the reason that i have been duck hooking my driver and such, and when i mishit irons they too hook. If your lie angle is too flat, you will tend to slice the ball. If your swing plane is slightly upright, compared to being perfectly on plane, it should be alright, unless you want to draw all your shots all the time. Instead, work on keeping the left wrist flat or slightly bowed as you start the. Here are a couple of good places to check out, if you want to get more involved in swing planes, especially. Nov 07, 2017 heres a video looking at steep and flat backswings and which one is better for your game.
A backswing plane that is upright, or steep, can work very well as long as plane is flattened during the transition to the forward swing. Your shoulder plane is flat if your shoulders turn on a more horizontal plane see figure 2. Oct 27, 2008 i have a flat swing wit my driver along with a somewhat strong grip. You need to make sure your right shoulder stays back, allowing the club to drop to the inside as you start down. Flat swing plane instruction and playing tips the sand.
Remember, at setup, your hands are on a plane with your shoulders that is below the plane of the clubhead and shoulders you want to keep it that way going back. While the club is much shallower at the start of the downswing, during impact the club was actually moving. The club head comes into the ball on a flatter swing plane, enlarging the contact zone at the bottom of your swing arc. Are you hitting a lot of hooks, or perhaps pushing your shots. I have a flat swing wit my driver along with a somewhat strong grip. How to correct a flat golf swing has your golf swing gone flat. Some great examples of flat golf swings are tony finau and rickie fowler. Shallowing the golf club means that you get the club to flatten out more horizontally on the way down. When you do happen to hit the ground before the ball, a sweeping path will be more forgiving because the club head will be more likely to slide over the ground and into the ball. Additionally, the angle of your spine should be the same as it. Its why its pretty common for players with a flat backswing to also have a shallow downswing. Brian mogg gives advice on finding the proper swing plane for your driver in this 30 seconds to know. If we imagine this shaft line extends up this way on the same angle as that shaft that is going to be an ideal plane if you want to talk about plane of swing. This can produce fat shots, skinny shots, and big misses to the right.
Oct 07, 2017 so, a shallower shaft actually produced a steeper angle of attack and a left swing path. In a great swing, your shoulders should turn back on a plane that is perpendicular to your spine at address see figure 1. Shallow out your angle of attack for longer drives to watch in a smaller size. Heres a video looking at steep and flat backswings and which one is better for your game. Since you dont need to worry about hitting down, there is no need to use a steep swing plane. How steep and shallow affect swing path golf channel. Allow the direction of turn to take it there, and you will be amazed at how far the club goes around without you even trying. Billy horschels tips to shallow out a steep swing billy horschel shares the techniques he uses to shallow out his swing when it gets too steep. That swing habit is common and will, at times, compensate for the steep transition. It can even cause you to develop swing compensations to correct for it, preventing you from ever developing a consistent, repeatable, and powerful swing. The blueprint for this flatter, more diagonal swing is matt kuchar.
My swing was so steep and i couldnt even feel it, hence this is the reason that i have been duck hooking my driver and such, and when i mishit irons they too hook. Meandmygolf explain the flat swing plane and whether a flat swing plane can lead to poor contact subscribe to meandmygolf to see more professional golf instructions. May 29, 2018 so if youre steep during the downswing, and im saying to you, you need to do the opposite of that earlier. Jul 23, 2017 instead, work on keeping the left wrist flat or slightly bowed as you start the downswing and all the way to impact. Nowadays, players have pushed the limits of the game thanks to technology, fitness and analytics. The why and how of shallowing your golf swing the left rough. Since the golf swing is a movement of opposites, will a flat shoulder turn back create a steep shoulder turn down. Having the correct golf swing plane is vital if you want to see any sort of improvement in your golf game. Most golfers are too flat going back and too vertical coming through. The pga tour has witnessed a war on the swings of old. Should you strive for a flatter transition in your golf swing. People with this swing plane also tend to stand further away from the ball this gives you plenty of room to swing the club, but it will also force you to reach as you come. How to correct a flat golf swing the shape of your golf swing plays a critical role in the shots that you are able to produce.
We might have a swing thats steep, too steep or flat and too flat. One of the tallest players on the pga tour at 6 foot, 4 inches, kuchar looks as if hes ducking for cover when he swings. Most amateurs whip the club too far inside to start the backswing. Remember, at setup, your hands are on a plane with your shoulders that is below the plane of the clubhead and shoulders. If you make a swing and the heel makes contact with the ground first, the club will close. This initiates a very flat shoulder turn and lots of late arm lift. If you have done these moves correctly you will maintain the proper golf swing plane. To change you would want to get the shaft going more vertical going back. Many amateur golfers, and even pros from time to time, suffer from a shoulder plane that is too flat in the backswing. How to correct a flat golf swing video by pete styles. From the down the line view of the player, the center mass of the club would be above the plane of the hand path in a steep swing, not below it.
This steepness in the swing is common and very correctable. The driver has a longer shaft than the wedge and a flatter lie the angle at which the shaft emerges from the clubhead, so you have to stand farther away from the ball. Now, not at the ball, thats pretty steep, but outside the ball a little bit is where we want to be. Bowed is when the left wrist is bent left to right which helps shallow out the golf swing. Most people who are too flat rehearse a swing that bottoms out behind the ball. Most amateurs fall somewhere between a 4 and 6 degrees down with the driver, which is entirely too s. When hitting a driver, you are not hitting down as you would when hitting irons from the fairway. Often overlooked as an afterthought by many golfers, flattening your left wrist prevents any bending from obstructing the downswing. This will help you hit slightly up on the ball with the driver and create maximum distance. Video by pete styles now if you want to try and improve your swing plane with your driver, first things first lets understand what swing plane is and now ill give you some tips on how you can improve it or change it if its not quite right. You will be less likely to come down too early and steep, digging into the ground.
I prefer a flat swing plane, and hogan seemed to do ok with what many consider to be too flat a swing plane. This move is done simultaneously with the first two and is your key to shallowing out your golf swing and getting your golf swing on plane. Aug 17, 2015 many amateur golfers, and even pros from time to time, suffer from a shoulder plane that is too flat in the backswing. Such a plane would be effective for a short iron, but not so much for a driver. Steep swing fix pga professional robin symes shows a fun drill to help fix a steep swing. Nothing in the golf swing happens in a vacuum, so to speak. Does your golf swing come down very steep and results in a lot of. Billy horschel shares the techniques he uses to shallow out his swing when it gets too steep. Think about the plane your hands make going back and into the backswing position.
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